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ELIJAH GIBBS' 7 THUNDERS RELATED QUESTIONS
Questions Nos. 475 to 485


CHAPTER EIGHT


E.O.D.H. Answer: Pastor Elijah Gibbs introduced himself and his ministry to me in April 2004, and offered a seven-fold questionnaire, which he claimed that ministers cannot or will not answer. I answered his questions and commended him on the setting of them, and said that they were able to challenge heretical false thunders preachers. However, I underlined his errors found in his very questions. Not willing to embarrass him, I left it for his observation, to respond in a humble manner. I am sure that he understood that he was wrong. He wrote and said that he must rephrase his questions, instead of repenting. Now he denies that he ever indicated that I should answer those questions and claim that it was not presented to me with that motive. That is a silly excuse. Why did he write me as a first time writer and tell me anything about them, knowing that I believe that the thunders were not revealed in 1963? In 2005, about one year after, he stated:

"I sent it because you asked for it! I thought you just wanted to inspect it. I had no idea you were going to attempt to answer it. After all it is written to those who feel they know what the Seven Thunders uttered. I wasn't even sure why you took it upon yourself."

Please observe the gross contradiction and conflicting reasons for writing to me, introducing himself and presenting to me his seven fold questionnaire.
Firstly: He stated that he had seven questions that the ministers could not answer.
Secondly: At the end of one year he now brings out his true purpose in saying that he was forced to read book 5 and wrote to see what I had on mind, and started a dialog.
He confessed the above. That is his true purpose. He manifested it throughout his writing for the past year. I told him he had a hidden agenda to attack E.O.D.H. and GCC in Connecticut, USA, because they fully support E.O.D.H. He said that was a false accusation. I wonder if he will call his own words and purpose of writing me a false accusation. I have quoted him direct without pulling words out of context. I would document his first seven questions, which he presented to me and others that follow.


Question # 475: "Can you write down exactly what John would have written down had he not been forbidden to do so? If so, please write down what each Thunder said?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: NO. All that was declared to John in the Book of Revelation, needed interpretation through prophetic utterances in the Endtime; the seven thunders are not exempted. Brother Branham did not leave documentation in his Message of the unknown language, even like John, who was forbidden to write what he saw and heard, to keep the revelation of the thunders a secret until the right time and season.


Question # 476: "Brother Branham personally heard the Seven Thunders, but the interpretation of what they said came to him in an unknown language. Do you have the correct translation of what was actually said to the prophet? If so, what is it?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: NO. None can do so until it is broken to the public, before the rapture. Brother Branham said:

Quote W.M.B.: "But I was standing right there and looked right straight at it" {Seals page 564-2} "..but sitting in my room and I heard this...not heard it, rather but seen it unfolded to this seven thunders". (Seals page 576-4).

Pastor Elijah is too ignorant, proud or embarrassed to acknowledge his error, underlined. No, the prophet did not hear the thunders.


Question # 477: "God's Prophet taught us that the Seven Thunders have to do with the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus, but he didn't know how or when that coming would transpire. Do you know the day and hour of the Lord Jesus' literal corporal return and exactly what will happen when He does come? If so please write this information down."


E.O.D.H. Answer: NO. No man knows the day or the hour of Christ's coming. However, the Prophet is referring to the mystery of His coming held in the seven thunders and not what will happen when He comes. Also, "when" does not necessarily refer to the day or hour but the season of his coming (1 Thessalonians 5:1-5).
Note the underlined error of this 'bright' pastor. The mystery of the thunders is not what happens when He comes, and the day and hour of His coming.


Question # 478: "The Prophet told us that Jesus' new Name, JHVH, would be revealed in the Seven Thunders. Do you know the proper spelling and correct pronunciation for the name JHVH? If so please include this information."


E.O.D.H. Answer: NO. My understanding of the Prophet's statement is that he is referring to a new name, other than Jesus the Redeemer, and the Old Testament name of God 'JVHU', which was given to him when he conquered death and Hell. I bear in mind that The Seventh Seal/Seven Thunders/Third Pull are in three folds.

Quote W.M.B.: 563-5 {299} "And in Sabino Canyon, He said, "This is the third pull." And there's three great things that goes with it, and one unfolded today, or yesterday, the other one unfolded today, and there's one thing that I cannot interpret, because it's in an unknown language. But I was standing right there and looked right straight at it, and this is the third pull coming up. And the Holy Spirit of God... Oh, my. That's the reason all heaven was silent". (The seventh seal 63-0324E).

Quote: 158-3 {283} "And Jesus, His Name on earth was Redeemer, Jesus. When He was on earth, He was the Redeemer; that's true. But when He conquered death and hell, and overcome them, and ascended on high, He received a new Name. That's the reason they holler the way they do and don't get nothing; it'll be revealed in the thunders." (The First Seal 63-0318).

Quote: 157-2 {274} "…he had a name written, that no man knew, but He himself. […] nobody knows it. Did you ever know that the Name of Jehovah is not correct? […] The translators could never translate it. It's spelled J-u-h-v--J-v-h-u, I mean. It isn't Jehovah. They couldn't touch it. They don't know what it is. Called it Jehovah, but it wasn't His Name. Look. Every time a victory's won or something goes on, a name is changed." (The First Seal 63-0318).

Pastor Elijah cannot comprehend that his question itself is a heresy. Neither JHVH nor JVHU is the New Name of the Lord. It is not revealed.


Question # 479: "Brother Branham believed that the Seven Thunders, when fully manifested, would produce Rapturing Faith. Do you believe this, and if so, do you now have rapturing faith and will never experience physical death?


E.O.D.H. Answer: YES. The thunders will produce rapturing faith, when fully manifested to the Bride before the rapture, since it was not revealed to Brother Branham in 1963. He had two folds of the Seven Thunders and he died. Woe is me! The Seventh Seal/Seven Thunders/Third Pull are in three folds.
Because of the above, Pastor Elijah assumes that I am saying that the seven thunders also have three folds. He is wrong. I addressed the seventh seal/seven thunders as a singular article. It is Christ's coming.


Question #480 : "God's Prophet stated that when the Seven Thunders utter their voices to the Bride-group, they would fully manifest the power of the Spoken Word. Are you manifesting the Third Pull in the fullness of its power? If so, please explain."


E.O.D.H. Answer: NO. The Seventh Seal/ Seven Thunders/ Third Pull are in three folds. The Bride will have such manifestations, when the Squeeze comes down on the church.


Question #481 : "Did the Mighty Angel, in fulfillment of Rev. 10:1-6, descend on Sunset Mountain in 1963? If so, was it on Feb. 28th or March 7th? Finally, how is it possible for Christ to descend as the Lion with an Open Book and two weeks later be in Heaven as the Lamb with a Sealed Book?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: I believe that the Mighty Angel descended in 1963. I am sure about the event more than the dates.

Quote W.M.B.: 74-2 {40} "And when the Seals are broke and the mystery is revealed, down comes the Angel, the Messenger, Christ, setting His foot upon the land and upon the sea with a rainbow over His head. Now remember, this seventh angel is on earth at the time of this coming". (The Breach 63-0317E)

The same reason that made it possible to have the Seventh Seal/Seven Thunders yet to be revealed and the Sixth Seal yet to be opened by Moses and Elias after the rapture, and the white wig clouds of judgment to appear before the loosing of the Seals. The Lion of Judah prevailed to open the Book, but the Lamb came and took the Book and revealed the Seals. Revelation 10:1, the Lion, stood upon earth, but the Lamb revealed the Seals. The cloud and the Angel of Revelation 10:1 are symbolic of judgment. Warnings come before judgment.

Quote W.M.B.: 433-1 {295} "Now, notice. Don't let it choke you, but watch what opened that Seal: prophets. See? Amen. There you are. Oh, we're living in the eagle day, brother, head up among the clouds. They opened that Sixth Seal. They have power to do it. Amen. There's your Sixth Seal coming open. See?" (The Sixth Seal 63-0323).

Quote: 433-3 {299} "They opened that Sixth Seal. Amen." (The Sixth Seal 63-0323).


FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS


Elijah Gibbs : "To my question, "Did the Mighty Angel in fulfillment of Revelation 10:1-6, descend on Sunset Mountain in 1963?", you answered, "I believe that the Mighty Angel descended in 1963." If you don't mind, I have a few follow up questions in regards to your response."

1. If the Mighty Angel descended in 1963, where did He descend to; the Air; Flagstaff, AZ; Sunset Mountain; or some other place?
2. If the event of Rev. 10:1-6 was fulfilled in 1963 and the Mighty Angel descended, did the Seven Thunders utter their voices?
3. Do you believe the photographed Cloud over AZ was the fulfilment of the Cloud in Rev. 10:1? If so, can you give me any quotes of Br. Branham, which specifically make that connection?
4. Are you saying that Christ was in His Lamb office in Heaven at the same time as He was in His Lion office on earth?


Question # 482: "If the Mighty Angel descended in 1963, where did He descend to; the Air; Flagstaff, AZ, Sunset Mountain or some other place?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: Revelation 10:2, He set His right foot upon the sea and His left foot on the earth. The Prophet said that happened at the time of the Seals. That removed the "if" for me. At His first coming, the wise men and all Israel had this same question. He was in a house and not in the manger where he descended. The Bride should be more concerned about where He is since He descended, as He may not be at that first location. The Seven Thunders will declare it. The Seventh Seal starts in secret. He should be there.


THIS 7TH ANGEL IS ON EARTH AT THE TIME OF HIS COMING

Quote W.M.B.: 74-2 {40} "And when the Seals are broke and the mystery is revealed, down comes the Angel, the Messenger, Christ, setting His foot upon the land and upon the sea with a rainbow over His head. Now remember, this seventh angel is on earth at the time of this coming." (The Breach 63-0317E).


Question #483 : "If the event of Revelation 10:1-6 was fulfilled in 1963, and the Mighty Angel descended, did the Seven Thunders utter their voices?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: Revelation 10:1-6 is not one event, but several. They are in three folds. I don't lump them together. The Prophet established in his Message that the event of the descending of the Mighty Angel took place at the Seals and Church Age time was sworn away, but the Seven Thunders were not revealed. No, they did not utter their voices. Brother Branham said, "I seen, not heard". That's the next announcement.


YOUR MESSAGE INTRODUCE THE MESSIAH - THE MIGHTY ANGEL

Quote W.M.B.: 45-7 "45-6 "That Angel coming and said, "…your message… will introduce the Messiah just before His coming."…notice, the mighty Angel swore with an oath, that time would be no more… This Angel come down from heaven… He isn't a man from the earth as the messengers to the church ages…But this Angel brings the next announcement…It was Christ." (Is this the sign of the end sir 62-1230e).


TIME NO LONGER-CHURCH AGES & DENOMINATIONAL AGES HAS RUN OUT

Quote W.M.B.: 76-2 {54} "Notice--this Book is not revealed until the church ages and denominational ages has run out, and there's time no more. See it? It's only revealed after church ages and denominational ages has run out." (The Breach 63-0317E).


Question # 484: "Do you believe the photographed Cloud over Arizona was the fulfillment of the Cloud in Rev. 10:1? If so, can you give me any quotes of Br. Branham, which specifically make that connection?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: Both clouds have to do with the Seventh Seal and coming of the Lord. The Prophet was silent on many things. There are other symbolic connections, which are more positive than a cloud quotation.


Question # 485: "Are you saying that Christ was in His Lamb office in Heaven at the same time as He was in His Lion office on earth?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: No, God uses one office at a time. A gift and event can be declared on earth but not effective until the right time and season. The angels declared peace on earth at Christ's first coming, but the Law of Moses continued; mercy and grace came 33 ˝ years later. Judgment was declared at a season of mercy upon Israel by Jesus, but grace continued. It came 40 years later in A.D. 70. Revelation 10:1 is similar.

Quote W.M.B.: "You see, you do, you only make it a mysterious something and mess the real program of God up, see." (Seals page 459)

Quote: "And especially tonight, when that Seal becomes up in front of you. See? Just don't try to interpret it." ( Seals page 459).


LAST LETTER OF ELIJAH GIBBS TO E.O.D.H.

"Dear Br. Dalton, Greetings in the Name of Jesus Christ the soon coming Judge! You claim that I have error in my teaching. I believe you also have error in your teaching. For instance you teach that the Mighty Angel of Rev. 10:1 descended in 1963. You base this on one isolated quote, which was made before the Seals were opened. The fact is Br. Branham taught that the Mighty Angel of Rev. 10 descends AFTER the Seals are opened not before.
Therefore, I firmly believe that when the Angel of Revelation the 10th chapter puts one foot on land and one on the sea, and a rainbow over His head, and swears that time shall be no more, when that time comes, the Bride will rise up from among the dead. The rest of the dead shall lie there, but She will go in! Do you believe this?"


E.O.D.H. Answer: Dear Pastor Elijah. Greetings in the name of the soon coming judge who shall judge all heretics with their heresies and destroy them with the glory of his power.
"And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed ) in that day."(II Thess. chapter 1: 7-10).
I sent my final letter to you several weeks ago. However, you insisted to pull me into an angry argument with you about things that we have already discussed. I told you that I do not argue and even now I would not be pulled into any arguments with you. The answer to your question is NO! I do not believe any of your heresies. AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
I can see that you are gathering information for defense against exposition of all your heresies, but the Holy Ghost which I am filled with, for the past decades, always leads me right. Your complaint letters, sent to the ministers at G.C.C., are not going to help you in this exposition, nor will the absence of your name on your last letters. It proves fear and guilt and a troubled conscience. You see brother; I am so busy exposing your heresies in a perfectly scriptural manner that I do not have time to waste, in talking about the same things over and over again. Believe what you want to and don't disturb me in my hard labors; you are becoming annoying, like a tick in a sheep's ear and a fly in a horse's nostrils. Where are your Christian principles, decency and respect? If a man says that is his final letter, you should honor that, because you belong to the "love gospel". All your latter heresies, which you sent to me, even the last one, if you wait awhile, you will read them on my publication. I call you to repentance for the last time and to make a public apology for your heresies on E.O.D.H. We trust to spend eternity together. Goodbye!

Your Servant for Christ Sake, Dalton Bruce.
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