SEVEN THUNDERS HERESIES

EXPOSED 2004

Heretical articles nos. 509 to 514

CHAPTER NINE

Introduction to chapter nine, preached at Bethel the House of God, 26/10/2008, after close of discourse.

Now, these heresies here relate to the title of our message. It shows you how one error leads to the next one and to the next, and how it is a dangerous thing. You can sit in the congregation here with just one little concept against the Word of God and that could grow, and before you know it you are a prophet. You could have one little thing in your life of which you say, “I just can’t give up that, I know the Word said so and they preached about it ten times but I just can’t give up that and”, you are not willing to give it up, that sin is going to continue to grow. A little leaven will leaven the whole lump, it will swell up the bread, it will destroy you. You must obey the Word of God.

I am saying that these things which follow was not in the discourse but I am bringing these things to show you how heresies grow and how far Dr. Vayle went; a wonderful man, with good intentions, who loved the prophet; how far a man could go in formulating heresies because he made one error on a vital subject like the seven thunders will be revealed by Malachi 4. Then he has to answer questions and he is still answering them at 94 yrs of age. Thousands of people are mixed up around the world.

So a man’s sins live after him, a man’s heresies live after him, a man’s interpretation lives after him; and that is well proven. When the serpent which was a two legged creature, next to man, went with Eve, God passed by and cursed him and turned him into a reptile. He lost his hands, his feet and his features in order that he could never go back with another woman for her conception, but his sins was left behind. The woman got pregnant and she made a child just like the original serpent; his name was called Cain and he was a beast man. That is the man that caused trouble to the human race and his doctrine right down the line. So the serpent was cursed and he became a reptile, but when she made this child, the sin of Eve lived after her. The child became closer to the human race; he even became better than the serpent because of the co-mingling of the seed. And while the serpent was living among the trees, he was living in Adam’s house and calling Adam, “Daddy.” Do you know how much “grind” Adam went through with this creature, animal child that his wife made in the house who was calling him “daddy”? That’s a serious case! It’s like if a woman went out and lived with a dog and brings a puppy into your house and this puppy is barking, “Ruff, ruff, daddy, ruff, ruff” and you have to stay quiet because you don’t want to expose your wife and the other child must not hear. Of course that cannot happen with a dog, but it’s just to show the reality of the thing. Now, these things here are more heresies on the thunders.

Highest compliments to Dr. Vayle for presenting his interpretations in such humble and suggestive terms. If he read this article someday, I trust that he will understand that this exposition of his doctrine is for the edification of the elected Bride. It is not meant for any other purpose, since he has expressed himself in a manner totally unlike his successor, Pastor Brian Kocourek, who acted as an elite and as that one with the Doctorate behind his name. I believe he is the poorest representative of Dr. Vayle’s ministry. In my recent discourse with him, of which he claimed that Dr. Vayle was aware, concerning items from the church age book-C.A.B., he miserably failed to defend his work. He formulated heresies, perverted the Word and the message and denied his teachings under discussion, namely: marriage and divorce (C.A.B. page 104); the new birth and baptism of the Holy Ghost (C.A.B. pages 139-146); and 7 thunders (C.A.B. page 327). Above all, he took it to the world by his website. I was precautious not to do so since 1972. Now that he has started this public battle, it must continue in that manner. Pastor Kocourek, his successor, should repent to Dr. Vayle for any inconvenience this may have caused him.

Our readers can see from the following statement and exposition that I tried not to bring Dr. Vayle into ill-repute, though Pastor Kocourek employed that lie as one of his defense. In the year 2004 certain questions were directed to our publication E.O.D.H. They were answered and published in an indirect manner on book 13 as heretical articles # 509-514. They were pertinent to Dr. Vayle and his teachings. I am now obliged to identify him with his heresies because of his successor’s publicity of his errors which I exposed.

DR. VAYLE’S MISCONCEPTION GREW

It is clearly noticeable in the teachings of Dr. Vayle, that the misconceptions on the seventh seal/seven thunders, which he started and injected into the C.A.B. grew from one stage of deception to the next. It went completely off the Word and the message, and has become fanatical, insomuch as to misconstrue the simple teachings of the prophet on the subjects of “The rapture, Melchisedec, the capstone, Revelation 10: 1 and Revelation 10:7.”

Since my discourse with pastor Kocourek was centralized on the three major errors of the C.A.B., this was not included in my discourse. Besides, his attitude was one of the great reasons why I did not discuss with him the fantastic growth of the seven thunders heresy of the C.A.B. page 327. Nevertheless, I placed the additional heresies of Dr. Vayle under this subject of the seventh seal/seven thunders, that all may be able to understand the growth of the seed of the Nicolaitan that has become one of the most popular doctrines amongst message believers, internationally, known as “the revelation of the seven thunders.” Upon that foundation, most heretics formulated their heresies, beginning with Pastor Coleman unto Pastor Kocourek.

Please note that these errors were exposed in 2004, therefore they do not carry a new and current heresy number.

E.O.D.H. BOOK 13: Heretical Articles Nos. 509 to 514

Question # 451: “I ask this question with great fear because of the greatness of this man, a Doctor of divinity, therefore I will not mention his name. He teaches certain doctrines that do not compare with the message. Are they heresies?”

Heretical Articles No. 509: The seventh seal is a part of the thunders or a thunder.

E.O.D.H Answer: I appreciate your respect for this great person that you mentioned in your question. However, if a man preaches heresies, we should be no respecter of persons, since we are not coming against the man, his ability, his association with the prophet, the miracles that he has done, or whatever he has done to promote the message or honor the prophet. We expose the heresies that others be not deceived; also to bring deliverance to those who are already deceived.

After a casual examination of the statements of this great person, I must be truthful in answering your question. Yes, they are heresies. They contradict the Word and message of the prophet. The above heresy has no scriptural or message support. It is full of uncertainty, in its very context. This great person is guessing; that proves that he himself does not have a revelation of this subject. He should be silent where the prophet is silent and speak only what the prophet has spoken. People cannot hang their souls upon such a presumptuous statement. A true revelation does not say that the seventh seal is a part of the seven thunders or a thunder. God does not bring a revelation in such a presumptuous manner. It is either one or the other. If God had spoken to him, it would not be this or that, and that will settle the issue. This statement has discredited all the following statements of this mighty one. Therefore it is a heresy.

Quote W.M.B.: 575-4 {390} “… this Seventh Seal… it is the mystery of the seven thunders. The seven thunders in heaven will unfold this mystery.” (The seventh seal 63-0324E).

Quote: 557-1 {241} “…this Seventh Seal mystery in the Book of Redemption was broke open… those seven thunders that he heard thunder and was forbidden to write, that's what the mystery is laying behind those seven consecutive thunders rolling out.” (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

Heretical Articles No. 510: The seventh seal/seven thunders are the last part of the shout, all finished at Brother Branham’s message entitled the rapture.

E.O.D.H Answer: Here is another unscriptural statement, which cannot be supported by the message of the prophet. How can this great brother speak so presumptuously, when the prophet has not spoken such things in any part of his message?

The seventh seal/seven thunders is not the last part of the shout, according to the message of the prophet entitled ‘the rapture’. The seventh seal holds the coming of the Lord, and the prophet said that three things happen before the Lord takes away his bride: a shout, voice, and trumpet. The voice is the gathering of the bride.

Quote W.M.B.: 129 “II Thessalonians... 13th to the 16th verse there's three things that has to happen before the Lord Himself appears…The first thing happened, notice: a shout, a voice, a trumpet.” (The Rapture 65-1204).

Quote: 152 “The first thing is… a shout, and then a voice, and then a trumpet. Shout, a messenger getting the people ready... The second is a voice of the resurrection. The same voice that, a loud voice in St. John 11:38 and 44 that called Lazarus from the grave. Getting the Bride together, and then the resurrection of the dead (See?), to be caught up with it.” (The Rapture 65-1204).

The doctrine of the rapture message preached by the prophet is not the seventh seal/seven thunders.

Heretical Articles No. 511: The last part of the seventh seal was broken to the public in 1965 by the rapture sermon.

E.O.D.H Answer: The above statement is a heresy; a most irresponsible statement. The last part of the seventh seal is the seven thunders, and the thunders were not broken to the public in 1965. The prophet said that it will be revealed about the time that Jesus appears on earth for the rapture of the bride. If it was broken in 1965, the rapture would have taken place then.

The rapture sermon is not the revelation of the seventh seal/seven thunders.

Quote W.M.B.: 576-7 {398} “He omitted the revelation of this Seventh Seal. And here when the Seventh Seal, when He opened it, He also omitted it again. See? So we see that it is a complete mystery, therefore, the hour is not yet for these mystery to be known, therefore, we're this far and the rest of it will be known right around about the time that Jesus appears on earth again for His Bride.” (The seventh seal 63-0324E).

Heretical Articles No. 512: Revelation 10: 1-7 is the seventh seal, the complete message from 1946-1965.

E.O.D.H Answer: This great person just doesn’t know what he is talking about. He is highly intellectual, confused, and mixed up in his theology. In his first statement he is guessing about the seventh seal/seven thunders, saying it is the seven seals. Now, he is saying that it is the complete message of the prophet from 1946 to 1965. It is not. The seals are completely different from the evangelical ministry and divine healing, which started in 1946 and continued for 15 years, after which that revival was over.

Therefore Revelation 10:1-7 is not the seventh seal. Revelation 10:7 revealed all the mysteries that were written in the book. The seventh seal was not written in the book, which ties in with Revelation 10:1-4, the seven thunders, which was not written in the book, and holds the coming of the Lord. That is a completely different mystery, which the prophet said was not revealed.

Quote W.M.B.: 17-3 “God has this all to Himself. It's a secret. And that's the reason there was silence in heaven for a space of a half hour. And Seven Thunders uttered their voices, and John was even forbidden to write it (See?)--the coming of the Lord. That's one thing He hasn't revealed yet, of how He will come, and when He will come.” (Christ Is The Mystery 63-0728).

The ministry of divine healing for 15 years was not the coming of the Lord. It was an evangelical ministry, carrying a gift of divine healing world-wide.

WHEN HE BEGINS TO SOUND – NOT THE YEARS OF PREPARATION

Quote W.M.B.: 165 “…Them mysteries will be revealed in the last days when the seventh angel's Message, when he, not when he starts out doing this, but when he begins to sound his Message. See? Not the years in preparation, but the--when he begins to sound the Message, these mysteries then will be revealed. And here they are, not knowing them, and you people are a witness of that. (Trying To Do God A Service 65-0718m).

Heretical Articles No. 513: The rapture is the seventh seal.

E.O.D.H Answer: The sermon of the rapture preached by Brother Branham is not the seventh seal. No where on that message did Brother Branham specify that; seeing that the prophet closed his subject on the seventh seal with much uncertainty and concluded that it was not revealed in 1963 (Seals page 567-578). If the above statement had any credibility, the prophet would have clarified the subject by specifying that the rapture sermon is the revelation of the seventh seal/seven thunders, but he did not even hint about the seventh seal. Thus the above statement is heretical, presumptuous and irresponsible. On the message of the rapture W.M.B. spoke about the rapture of the Bride church. Knowing that the 7 thunders are for rapturing faith, he said that the rapture is a revelation and the Bride will be waiting on it. We are to believe a prophet and not a theologian.

BRIDE OF CHRIST WILL BE WAITING FOR THAT REVELATION OF THE RAPTURE

Quote W.M.B.: 65 But to the church, the Bride, the rapture is a revelation to her. It's revealed to her, that the revelation, the true Bride of Christ will be waiting for that revelation of the rapture. Now, it is a revelation, for the revelation is faith. You cannot have a revelation without it being faith. (The Rapture 65-1204).

Quote: 142-1 {166} “… seven thunders…We don't know what they are yet; but my opinion they'll be revealed right away. And when it do, it'll give faith for that rapturing grace for that Church to move out. (The First Seal 63-0318).

Heretical Articles No. 514: The seals are the message and this is the capstone, or else I don’t know what he talked about.

E.O.D.H Answer: Certainly this great man that you referred to as a doctor of divinity doesn’t know what he is talking about. The seven seals is not the capstone. The capstone is an outpouring of the Holy Spirit. The prophet clarified this subject of the capstone or headstone on the message, ‘Stature of a Perfect Man.’

Quote W.M.B.: 51-5 You’re sealed. A seal shows on both sides. Whether you're going or coming, they see the seal just the same. There you are. See? When a man or woman possess this, then the Capstone comes down and seals them into the Kingdom of God which is the Holy Ghost.” (Stature Of A Perfect Man 62-1014m).

Quote: 22 “And now, as in the individuals, these virtues and things are (knowledge and temperance)--is added to our faith, then when the Capstone comes, the Holy Spirit cements it together; There's the baptism of the Holy Spirit. That's why it's so short today.” (Blasphemous Names 62-1104m).