PASTOR KOCOUREK’S response – SEVEN THUNDERS

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HERETICAL ARTICLES NOS. 753 TO 759

 

CHAPTER NINE

 

I withheld this, my reply to your angry response until our discourse on the church age book - C.A.B. reached to this stage, as I did not want to further infuriate you by the Word of God and quotations of the prophet. I was hoping that your mind would be more open to look at the scriptures and teachings of the prophet on other doctrinal issues under discussion, but my expectation was short-lived. Your second letter was of the same nature: arrogant, judgmental, argumentative, unscriptural, unsupported by the message and full of lies etc.

 

Pastor Kocourek 1: I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree, because  you do not believe all seven selas were opened when brother Branham said in many paces the seven seals was opeened.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Yes, we agree to disagree. Yes, I believe that the seventh seal was not revealed. I quoted the prophet to you but you behaved like such quotes don’t exist and you kicked them like a football. I challenge you and Dr. Vayle to address them.

 

Pastor Kocourek 2: Are you then preaching that we have a six sealed mysteries?

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: I preach exactly what the prophet taught. Are you going to kick this quote out of existence? He said.

 

            Quote W.M.B.:  270  The seventh angel was to open the six-seal mystery. (Proving His Word 64-0816)

 

            Pastor Kocourek 3: Are you saying brother Branham ws wrong when he said seven seals was opened?

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: No, he was right. He said that in reference to the event of the seven seals in 1963 and not specifically about the loosing of the seven individual seals. If that is not true, that he meant the seventh seal is not opened, loosed or revealed (Seals pages 567-578), I challenge you to make both set of quotes harmonize. But I am sure that you prefer to “boots” them out to save your face and Dr. Vayle’s. Remember, you are committed to answer only according to the Word and quotes of Brother Branham, unless your published policy is a lie.

 

Pastor Kocourek 4:   Are you saying he did not say that all seven were opened when there are literally dozens and dozens of quotes where he said all seven were opened?

[Ed. Quotations used by Pastor Kocourek to prove that all seven seals were opened, but they speak of the event of the seals and not each individual seal: Breach the 63-0317E P:81; P:77; P:76; First seal the 63-0318 P:3; P:23; Souls in prison now 63-1110M P:79; Spiritual food in due season 65-0718E P:36; World again falling apart 63-1127 P:7; Invisible union of the bride 65-1125 P:64; Rapture the 65-1204 P:90; P:44; I have heard but now I see 65-1127E P:89; Trying to do God a service 65-1127B P:133; P:130; P:93; Works is faith expressed 65-1126 P:107; Invisible union of the bride 65-1125 P:124; P:123; P:118,  P:105, P:81, P:68, P:64; What house will you build me 65-1121 P:9,  P:3 ; Power of transformation 65-1031M P:54; God's power to transform 65-0911 P:37; Christ revealed in His own Word 65-0822M P:117; Christ revealed in His own Word 65-0822M P:115; God of this evil age 65-0801M P:9; Anointed ones at end time 65-0725M P:189; P:178, P:177; Spiritual food in due season 65-0718E P:36.]

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: The phrase he used was in reference to the event of the seals in 1963. He could not say it’s opened, with reference to each seal, and that it is not opened at the same time. I recognize all quotes in their rightful place, but you don’t.

 

Pastor Kocourek 5:   What does the Words seven seals were opened man? Six?

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Let the prophet answer you on that:

 

Quote W.M.B.: You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals. (Future Home 2/8/64).

 

Quote: 23-4   076   “Now we see these things. Remember the Seven Seals is finished. And when those

seven revealed truths... One of them He wouldn't permit us to know. How many was here at the Seven Seals? Just about all of you, I guess. See? The Seventh Seal, He wouldn't permit it.” (Souls in prison now 11/11/63).

 

Quote: “This Book's already opened (That's right) just waiting for the Seventh Seal to be identified with the coming of Christ.” (What shall I do with Jesus 24/11/63).

 

 

Heretical Article No. 753: “Brother Branham revealed seven seals and not six.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 6:   He did not reveal only six seals, he revealed seven seals.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: You and Dr. Vayle are telling lies. Brother Branham is speaking the truth.

 

Quote W.M.B.: 564 (4)… “He's revealed all the six Seals, but it don't say nothing about the Seventh.” (The seventh seal 24/03/63).

 

Should I believe you or him? I believe him, and you don’t.

 

 

Heretical Article No. 754: “The seventh seal was revealed by W.M.B. but it is not completed.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 7:   But that does not mean all seven arecompleted yet.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: All the seals are not revealed. The seventh seal is yet to be revealed. Your interpretation about it’s opened but not completed, is a heresy. I challenge you to produce one quotation to support that heresy if you have not also “boots” out your published policy.

 

 

Pastor Kocourek 8:   Just like the first four seals which was the antichrist spirit riding through the ages, four stages of the same rider on different colored horses because each color had significiance. Yes they began nearly 2,000 years ago but have not completed the ride yet. But theyare all opened.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Here you have a twist of the tongue and confusion of doctrine. You emphatically stated that seals 1 to 4 were completed. I corrected you but you are too ashamed to admit you are wrong. Humble your heart brother. You are not an elite of the message, neither am I. You are just irresponsible with your tongue and are perverting the Word.

 

 

Heretical Article No. 755: “One seal cannot be opened without the rest being opened.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 9:   Apparently you do not undrstand that br. Branham sid although the seals were in a scroll and as you unraveled the scroll it led from one mystery to the next, but he also said that the seals were on the back side and you can not open the first until all seven seals were pulled back and removed from the scroll.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: He said no such nonsense; that’s your fabrication. Yes, one seal could have been opened without opening the rest. It’s a heresy to say that one cannot be opened without the rest of them. Should I believe you or the prophet?

 

Quote W.M.B.: 90-4 {144} … It was in a roll… called a scroll. Well a sealed scroll you could break loose one here (what the mystery of this was) and tear it loose, and you could see what that claim was. And then break the other one loose, and you see what that claim was. (The Breach 63-0317E).

 

 

Pastor Kocourek 10:  Also, he said that the seals were on the back side of the book, and to open the book all seven had to be opened?

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: He corrected himself later about seals on the back of the book.

 

Quote: 83    I always thought it was sealed on the back of the Book and it'd be something wasn't wrote in the Book; but it turned out that it was made known that He cannot do that. It isn't something that's written in the Book… It's something that's been hid in the Book.” (Spiritual food in due season 65-0718E).

 

 

Pastor Kocourek 11: How can the book be opened without removing all seven seals.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Because the seventh seal/seven thunders issued out of Revelation 10: 1’s mouth and not the seventh angel’s – Revelation 10: 7. The mighty angel held the opened book in his hand, not the seventh angel.

 

 

Heretical Article No. 756: “Dr. Vayle did not write error in the C.A.B. It is you that does not understand what he wrote.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 12: The probem i see is not that br. Vayle wrote error but that you do not understand what he wrote.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Yes, Dr. Vayle wrote error. I proved it in my discourse but you have willfully closed your eyes, because it destroys your reputation as the man replacing him. Help him to correct it and you will have true honor of God and men.

 

 

Pastor Kocourek 13: How can you agree that every thing in that book is thus saith the Lord " and it was brother Branham who told br. Collins and Br. Sydney Jacksn that, not br. Vayle who said that.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Because it’s the message of Brother Branham documented on the C.A.B. I exempt the three major heresies of Dr. Vayle. Those are “Thus saith Dr. Vayle”, in the name of William Branham.

            Are you too proud to say that the mistake was on your part, saying Dr. Vayle instead of Brother Branham (on fact 6 of your e-mail dated 4/8/2008) instead of speaking in a way to correct me?

 

 

Heretical Article No. 757: “The author of E.O.D.H. mind has become blinded by his lack of understanding of the message.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 14: The problem I see brother Bruce is that your mind has become blinded by your lack of understnding the Message itself.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: If you did not fit such description, you would understand the errors Dr. Vayle documented in the C.A.B.

 

Pastor Kocourek 15: Let me ask you and plase tell me "what is the Message to you?"

            E.O.D.H. Answer: The message to me is Christ from the loosing of the seals. Unto you it’s Dr. Vayle.

 

 

Heretical Article No. 758: “When the prophet said the seven seals were opened, he was referring to all seven seals.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 16: You do not believe the seven seals were opened when the prophet of God said in dozens of places the the seven seals were opened.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: You are sure right! Because he said that the seventh seal was not opened, and when he said, “When he opened the seven seals”, he only referred to the event, not the individual seven seals.

 

 

Heretical Article No. 759: “The prophet did not say six seals were opened.”

 

Pastor Kocourek 17: He did not say 4, or 5, or 6 of them were opened, he said seven seals were opened. [Ed. Quotations used by Pastor Kocourek to prove that all seven seals were opened,: Evening messenger 63-0116 P:34.]

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: Yes, he said six seals were opened. How readest thou? First learn to spell. I quote him. Are you humble enough to say, “I am wrong; forgive me?” I doubt it.

 

Quote W.M.B.: “You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals, that shook the country around about… wait till this earth receives her baptism!” (Future Home 2/8/64).

 

Quote: 564 (3) Now, I'd better stop right here. See? I just feel checked not to say no more about it. See? So just remember, the Seventh Seal, the reason it was not opened (See?), the reason He did not reveal it, no one should know about it. (Seals Book, New Ed. Page 509 (301-302)).

 

            Quote: 564 (4)…Notice now, for the end of time message (this Seal), after all He's revealed all the six Seals, but it don't say nothing about the Seventh. (Seals Book, New Ed. Page 510 (304)).

 

Quote: 576 (2) Here now, we find that the Sixth Seal has been opened to us; we see it, and we know that this Seventh Seal cannot be broke to the public until that hour arrives. (Seals Book, New Ed. Page 521 (393).

 

Pastor Kocourek 18: Now i fyou say, well this was before the seals then you aresaying brother Branham lied. I believe all that the prophet taught. He also said it in the seals themselves.

 

            E.O.D.H. Answer: I am not sure what you are getting at by your statement. I believe the entire message: before and after the seals.

Finally, wishing you Pastor Kocourek and Dr. Lee Vayle, all the best. Many thanks for your time to accommodate me in this most necessary discourse. I trust that it will be of edification to message believers internationally. Please be advised that I will be also exposing other heresies which you have published on your website. I feel at liberty not to bring these subjects to your attention because of your unfavorable response to our simple discourse on the C.A.B. book and errors that were injected into it by the honorable Dr. Vayle. Peace and goodbye for now.